Here is the famous debate on the existence of God between Frederick Copleston and Bertrand Russell. The link gives you the transcript of the debate. The only audio I have found is a partial MP3 from archive.org. It will give you an idea of the dialogue.Partial MP3 Audio here.
Enjoy.
4 comments:
Great! I've been wanting this.
Yeah, I've been waiting since 1948!!!
aDios,
Mariano
It seems to me, that Copleston won the debate.
But what fascinates me, is that this debate seems significantly deeper than what we typically find in debates in the modern era.
For Copleston to have won the debate he would have had to have carried the resolution but he failed to sufficiently account for Russell's many objections, so does not do so.
It's both deeper and more shallow, it is deeper in going to nitty-gritty (but ultimately irrelevant) details - but those details have been covered repeatedly, hundreds of times over since and no consensus has emerged that they are meaningful. The facts arrayed against the premises are vast and there are legitimate concerns over the logic as well.
You can reframe the Cosmological or Ontological arguments any which way you want but you are still just begging the question. Why? Because there is no evidence supporting the premise.
One such example is here:
http://iconoclasm2000.blogspot.com/2011/11/illogical-cosmology.html
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